What do you think Switzerland’s Alain Berset can bring to the Council of Europe?
On September 18, former interior minister Berset will become the 15th Secretary General of the Strasbourg-based organisation – and the first ever Swiss in the job.
The Council of Europe, founded in 1949, draws up conventions to safeguard and promote democracy, human rights, and the rule of law in its 46 member states. As Secretary General, Berset will have his work cut out: war in Ukraine and fears of democratic erosion in Europe have put the Council in a tricky position – not to mention the fact that many are unaware of what it even does.
What do you think: do you see the Council of Europe as helping to safeguard European values? Which areas should Berset focus his efforts on in his five-year mandate? Have your say below.
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Berset is a good choice for the Council of Europe: he is multilingual and comes from a small, neutral country at the heart of Europe and not from a major EU country.. As a politician he has experienced being President and in working with a broad spectrum of political and cultural positions. As a left-leaning politician from a country with predominatly right-wing values and as health minister during the Covid pandemic he had to impose unpopular decisions and thus developed a reputation of being more forceful than expected. So a good choice for the Council but will he have the ambition and be able to make any any significant impact? Let's see....
First of all, a good salary. As for the rest, we hope that his knowledge and experience will help to change the EU's deceitful attitude towards our country.
Tout d'abord, toucher un bon salaire. Le reste, on espère que ses connaissances et expériences, pourront changer un peu cette mentalité mensongère de l'UE envers notre Pays.
Alain Berset has a good understanding of the impact of noise pollution on health. His office regarded tranquility as a precious resource and promoted integration of acoustic quality into urban development. He suggested that environment and public health be part of the courses of architecs to promote acoustic quality both inside apartment blocks and the environment around blocks. Words alone will not bring success when not supported by implementation of legislation and norms.
Mr. Berset has a very good understanding of the impact of noise on our health. The Federal Office for the Environment (FOEN) regards tranquility as a precious resource and planning for peace and quite in settlement development provides citizens with a tranquil environment. FOEN wants to show that the design of quiet spaces is not an additional, useless building regulation but an opportunity to make the city more livable and says that more attention needs to be paid to the integration of acoustic quality into urban development. The fact that room quality depends not only on appearance but also on ocoustic quality. It has been suggested that courses for architecs include environment and public health, particularly the impact of noise on health through sleep deprevation. In this respect bakeries should not be mixed in with flats (refer to my contribution to Swissinfo on this). Civil Service enforcement of the Noise Abatement Ordinance and SIA Norm (architecs fail to provide the required insulation against noise in flats) needs to be given power. A good example of the impact of densifying already dense urban environments on the population is Hagenholz strasse Zurich, densification has been ongoing since 2021 with noise and inconvenience to citizens.
Good morning, I think that Alain Berset can bring new air to the Council of Europe, derived from the tested Swiss political ability to mediate in a positive sense towards new horizons of anti-war community orientation and of an innovative socio-cultural and economic balance indispensable to the achievement of evolved goals of general development of perfectionism.
This is also addressed to non-EU countries, also for a well hoped-for prospect of Switzerland's entry into the EU, which I believe should be a natural point of reference for the countries of a united Europe, which I do not believe could be defined as such if Switzerland were to remain outside its context.
Kind regards!
Ignazio Alfarano
Buon giorno, penso che Alain Berset possa portare al consiglio D’Europa aria nuova, derivata dalla sperimentata capacita’ politica svizzera di mediare in senso positivo verso nuovi orizzonti di orientamento comunitario anti bellicista e di un equilibrio socioculturale innovativo ed economico indispensabile al raggiungimento di traguardi evoluti di generale sviluppo del perfezionamento.
Questo rivolto anche a Paesi extracomunitari, anche per una bene augurata prospettiva di ingresso nella UE della Svizzera, che credo debba costituire naturale punto di riferimento unitario dei Paesi della Europa unita, che non credo possa definirsi tale se la Svizzera rimanesse fuori dal suo contesto.
Cordiali saluti !
Ignazio Alfarano
Sympathy and trust in a country that has to reinvent itself in order to be respected by the world elite for the next hundred years, which in the end is also part of our prosperity. In the meantime, nothing is more important than showing the world that not all the forces in Switzerland are cherry-pickers, even if, compared to the past, we really do come across as selfish miserly people who are constantly demanding but are hardly prepared to give anything. We find it difficult to move forward with change and act as if we don't need anyone, especially the bourgeois forces, while our entire prosperity, which we inherited from our parents, is based on a skill that we no longer have today: the ability to conclude trade agreements that are substantial for Switzerland through diplomatic skill. Neutrality today serves rogue states at best, but is not worthy of a democracy, we have no raw materials and are only in the middle of the field everywhere, and we could build up an elite of hackers. If we are not able to reinvent ourselves, we will fall into mediocrity like other countries before us. In the meantime, Berset can't do much more than ensure that we don't lose any more sympathy and he will certainly manage that, he is a very capable man.
Sympathie und Vertrauen in ein Land das sich gerade neu erfinden muss um die nächsten Hundert Jahre in der Weltelite respektiert zu werden was am Ende auch Teil unseres Wohlstandes darstellt. Nichts ist wichtiger derweil als der Welt zu zeigen das nicht alle Kräfte in der Schweiz Rosinen Picker sind auch wenn wir im Vergleich zu früher wirklich wie egoistische Geizkrägen daher kommen die ständig Fordern aber kaum bereit sind etwas zu geben. Wir tun uns schwer mit Veränderungen nach vorne und tun so, als würden wir niemanden brauchen im Besondern die Bürgerlichen Kräfte dabei beruht unser ganzer Wohlstand den wir von unseren Eltern geerbt haben auf einer Fähigkeit die uns heute nicht mehr gegen ist: durch Diplomatisches Geschick die für die Schweiz substantiellen Handelsverträge abzuschliessen. Die Neutralität dient heute bestenfalls noch Schurkenstaaten ist einer Demokratie aber nicht würdig, wir besitzen keine Rohstoffe und sin überall nur noch im Mittelfeld dabei könnten wir eine Elite von Hackern aufbauen. Wenn wir nicht fähig sind uns neu zu erfinden werden wir wie andere Länder vor uns sang und klanglos in Mittelmässigkeit an Bedeutung verlieren. Berset kann derweil nicht viel mehr machen als dafür zu sorgen das wir nicht noch mehr Sympathien verspielen und das wird er sicher schaffen, er ist ein sehr fähiger Mann.
Thanks for your post, Femaleart. Are you maybe overly pessimistic about the future for Switzerland? According to a lot of rankings looking at things like competitiveness, salaries, life expectancy etc., the country is still much higher than "middle of the field". Even on innovation it's still ranked number one in Europe! But I'd be interested to hear more about how you think the country could reinvent itself. And whether more international cooperation - e.g. at the Council of Europe - can be part of this.
How do I recover my @gmh_upsa account?
¿Como recupero mi cuenta @gmh_upsa?
Alain Berset has a very interesting opportunity. Switzerland was united under a big crises of religions to emerge as a successful developed nation. Other places emerged as non successful developing nations. That emergence was under #TheWealthOfNations. Now the opportunity is for a critical mass of nations to be united under the emergence of what I coined as #TheWealthOfGlobalization.
The is based on three scenarios: 1) Continuity; 2) Tough Times; and 3) Rising Expectations. The artistic precedent of scenarios 1 and 3, were given by Alvin Toffler in his book “The Third Wave.” The Second Wave has an S Curve of learning different than the Third Wave S Curve of learning. Between those two curves is the “Tough Times” scenario similar to the European Middle Age.
On the Third Wave there are no developed countries yet. The opportunity is on the “Rising Expectations” where a successful global decentralized government to the image of the Swiss government will successfully emerge peacefully. I am ready to help in that effort. Earlier of my comments were under @gmh_upsa. I registered now as @gmh_upsa2.
Alain Berset, like every person on a committee, is one more. It makes no difference whether he is Swiss or of x-nationality.
Alain Berset ist wie jeder Mensch in einem Gremium einer mehr. Ob Schweizer oder mit x-Nationalität macht keinen Unterschied.
So negating everything is supposed to be the better solution? Then why write another comment, a comment like any other comment in a forum. Such a defeatist text certainly makes no difference, totally superfluous sorry.
alles zu negieren soll demnach die bessere Lösung sein? Warum dann noch einen Kommentar schreiben, ein Kommentar wie jeder Andere in einem Forum einer mehr. So ein defätistischer Text macht sicher keinen Unterschied, total überflüssig sorry.
I'm not sure that the job of assuming "overall responsibility for the strategic management of the Council of Europe" is as simple as being "one more". Whatever he manages to do with it, Alain Berset will have a lot of concrete and individual authority.
I was born in Finland and personally experienced a lot of the Second World War. My father fought for Finland's independence for six years as a young man. At the end of the war he was captured and taken to a prison camp in Siberia. He was released in 1945.
If Finland had not agreed to hand over its wundersxhöne and important border areas to Russia as "ransom", there would have been no peace with Russia. Russia will never give up, history has shown that.
I think it would be important if Berset could take up this issue.
It is bitter for any independent country to give up parts of its territory. But if it would bring peace to Ukrania, it might be worth considering.
Bin gebürtige Finnin und habe viel von 2. Weltkrieg persöhnlich mitbekommen. Mein Vater hat sechs Jahre, als junger Mann für die Unabhängigkeit Finnlands gekämpft. Am Ende des Krieges wurde er gefangen genommen und in ein Gefangenenlager in Sibirien gebracht. Er wurde 1945 freigelassen.
Hätte Finnland nicht zugestimmt, seine wundersxhöne und wichtige Grenzgebiete als "Lösegeld" an Russland zu übergeben, hätte es keinen Frieden mit Russland gegeben. Russland wird niemals aufgeben, das hat die Geschichte gezeigt.
Denke, es wäre wichtig, wenn Berset dieses Thema aufgreifen könnte.
Es ist für jedes unabhängige Land bitter, Teile seines Lsndes aufzugeben. Wenn es aber Ukranien Frieden bringen würde, Wäre es vielleicht eine Überlegung wert.
Dear Tuulala, the Council of Europe is probably not the place where political talks to end a war will take place. But it does draft legal conventions to try to make sure that wars don't happen in the first place. What kind of agreements could it be discussing to make sure that, in the future, such a situation doesn't happen again?
Should Switzerland refuse protection to Ukrainian men of fighting age? I am a lady about 50 S status Donetsk. I must be under arrest, no courses, no places. 3.75 franks per day. So this program for women and kids of war zone. Maybe it's time support reality?
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), having failed after being refounded on the basis of a neo-capitalist ideology in 2014, no longer has a raison d'être internationally in a multipolar world.
Alain Berset, in his capacity as Secretary General, should create the "European Committee of the Red Cross", the ECRC, a powerful body, without power, capable of convincing people of the need to limit the number of victims in war, to protect them.
This power, capable of persuading, is achieved by promoting the values originally proposed by the founders of the ICRC in 1863-1864, proclaimed and reaffirmed in 1965 by 7 fundamental principles: Humanity / Impartiality / Neutrality / Independence / Voluntary service / Unity / Universality.
Power should not be confused with coercive power.
(In English, power is translated as "power politics" or power and strength, in German as "Macht Politik" or Macht und Kraft, according to Raymond Aron).
The Council of Europe has no power. It is the power of ideas that gives force to values and makes people act. In any case, I hope that Mr Berset will make use of this power.
Le Comité International de la Croix Rouge (CICR) ayant failli après avoir été refondé sur la base d'une idéologie néocapitaliste en 2014, n'a plus sa raison d'être internationalement dans un monde multipolaire.
Alain Berset en sa qualité de secrétaire général, devrait créer le "Comité européen de la Croix-Rouge", le CECR, organisme puissant, sans pouvoir, capable de convaincre de la nécessité de limiter le nombre de victimes dans la guerre, de les protéger.
Cette puissance, capable de persuader, s'obtient par la promotion des valeurs proposée à l'origine par les fondateurs du CICR en 1863-1864, proclamée et réaffirmée en 1965 par 7 principes fondamentaux: Humanité / Impartialité / Neutralité / Indépendance / Volontariat/ Unité / Universalité.
La puissance ne doit pas être confondue avec le pouvoir qui est coercitif.
(En anglais puissance se traduit par "power politics" soit power and strength, en allemand par "Macht Politik" soit Macht und Kraft, selon Raymond Aron)
Le Conseil de l'Europe n'a aucun pouvoir. C'est la puissance des idées qui donne force aux valeurs et fait agir. En tous les cas je souhaite à M. Berset de faire usage de cette puissance.
Why do you think an ECRC would be more effective than an ICRC? Wouldn't this make it more difficult to carry out missions and campaigns in countries outside Europe, which would not be members of the new organisation? And - if you say it should be more based on power of persuasion rather than practical or "coercive" power - would it still carry out concrete humanitarian missions in war zones, or rather limit itself to educating and preventing?
Engage with Russia. It's time to talk peace and whilst CoE may not have that authority, any and all reach-outs are a step in the right direction and counter to yet more bombings.
Why not Alain Berset at the Council of Europe? He might as well be an experienced statesman. But I think that there are too many international organisations, which overlap, which require energy, cost a lot of money, with little effectiveness for the life of people who suffer more and more from lack of means in this world where a few billionaires entertain the gallery.
Alain Berset au Conseil de l'Europe, pourquoi pas . Autant lui qui a de l'expérience d'homme d’État. Mais je pense qu'il y a trop d'organisations internationales, qui se recoupent, qui nécessite de l'énergie, coûte beaucoup d'argent , avec peu d'efficacité pour la vie des peuples qui souffrent de plus en plus de manque de moyens dans ce monde où quelques milliardaires amusent la galerie.
Thanks for the comment YERLY. Unfortunately it's not easy to cooperate internationally. As for costs, Switzerland contributes CHF12 million a year to the Council of Europe - whether that's "value for money" is difficult to say, but it's not astronomical in terms of overall spending. And for international organisations: where do you see most overlap? Should some organisations be reformed/combined? How would the CoE fit into the picture?
The Council of Europe is a paper tiger and is of little use to the continent. Decisions are made in the capitals of the individual countries or (unfortunately) by the EU in Brussels. So Alain Berset as Secretary General of the Council of Europe brings nothing to Switzerland except a somewhat questionable honour and, above all, costs. As far as I know, Switzerland has to pay for the Secretary General out of taxpayers' money. What does the suggestion "jeopardising the erosion of democracy in Europe" mean? From whom or from what should such a so-called undermining come? That is nonsense.
Der Europarat ist ein Papiertiger und bringt dem Kontinent kaum etwas. Entscheidungen fallen in den Hauptstädten der einzelnen Länder oder (leider) bei der EU in Bruxelles. Somit bringt Alain Berset als Generalsekretär des Europarates der Schweiz nichts ausser eine etwas fragwürdige Ehre und vor allem Kosten. M.W. hat die Schweiz den Generalsekretär aus Steuergeldern zu berappen. Was soll die Andeutung "Gefährdete Aushöhlung der Demokratie in Europa" bedeuten? Von wem oder von was soll eine solche sog. Aushöhlung kommen? Das ist Unsinn.
You're wrong three times over:
1) With the European Court of Human Rights ECHR, which is attached to the Council of Europe, there is a powerful instrument that influences the judicial systems of states and people's everyday lives.
2) The Secretary General is remunerated by the Council of Europe. The member states make contributions to the organisation, as is the case with any international organisation.
3) There is a broad consensus that the democracies in Europe are coming under pressure from illiberal political forces.
Da liegen Sie gleich dreifach falsch:
1) Mit dem Europäischen Gerichtshof für Menschenrechte EGMR, der dem Europarat angehängt ist, gibt es ein starkes Instrument, das die Justizsysteme der Staaten und den Alltag der Menschen beeinflusst.
2) Der Generalsekretär wird vom Europarat entlöhnt. Die Mitgliedstaaten errichten Beiträge an die Organisation, wie das bei jeder internationalen Organisation der Fall ist.
3) Dass die Demokratien in Europa von illiberalen politischen Kräften unter Druck kommen, ist weitgehend Konsens.
1) Foreign judges who are increasingly becoming legislators. No thanks. Most European states that are condemned by the ECtHR do not accept the judgements or ignore them. E.G. THE UK.
2) You may be right, but unfortunately not 100%.
3) That is your opinion - it is highly controversial and by no means a consensus. What are "illiberal political forces"? That is a vague term. Presumably you mean the parties on the right or left that you don't like?
1) Fremde Richter, die sich immer mehr zu Gesetzgebern entwickeln. Nein danke. Die meisten Europäischen Staaten, die vom EGMR verurteilt werden, akzeptieren die Urteile nicht bzw. ignorieren diese. Z.B. UK.
2) Da mögen Sie recht haben, aber leider nicht zu 100%.
3) Das ist Ihre Meinung Sie ist höchst umstritten und keinesfalls Konsens. Was sind "illiberale politische Kräfte"? Das ist ein schwammiger Begriff. Vermutlich meinen Sie damit die Ihnen nicht genehmen Parteien rechts oder links?
Dear Capetonians
1) That's not true - there are individual countries that ignore the judgements (and often do so strategically, factoring in the fines imposed). However, it is not the majority. On foreign judges: When you interact with foreign countries, you just have to deal with foreigners. In this case, they are judges after all. In bilateral relations or other multilateral organisations, it is often technocratically composed committees that make very far-reaching decisions. Do you prefer that?
2) How is it 100% correct?
3) A democracy is not just about voting: An illiberal democracy means a system of government that has democratic elements but disallows or deliberately suppresses certain freedoms (plurality of parties, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, protection of minorities, etc.). And yes, it seems clear to me that there are more and more parties and governments like this.
Geschätzter Capetonians
1) Das stimmt so nicht - es gibt einzelne Länder, die die Urteile ignorieren (und dies oft strategisch tun und die auferlegten Strafzahlungen einberechnen). Jedoch sind es nicht die meisten. Zu den fremden Richtern: Wenn man mit dem Ausland interagiert, hat man eben auch mit Ausländern zu tun. In diesem Fall sind es immerhin Richter:innen. Bei bilateralen Beziehungen oder anderen multilateralen Organisationen sind es oft technokratisch zusammengesetzte Ausschüsse, die sehr weitreichende Entscheide treffen. Ist Ihnen das lieber?
2) Wie ist es 100% richtig?
3) Eine Demokratie besteht nicht nur aus Urnengängen: Eine illiberale Demokratie meint ein Regierungssystem, das demokratische Elemente hat, aber gewisse Freiheiten nicht zulässt oder gezielt unterdrückt (Parteienpluralität, Meinungsfreiheit, Pressefreiheit, Minderheitenschutz etc.). Und ja, dass es zunehmend mehr solche Parteien und Regierungen gibt, das scheint mir klar.
He may say okay, the ECHR has condemned Switzerland for failing to take action on climate change, but we want to make up for that today, because we have become aware of this scourge, which is the most important at the moment. We also know that X number of nations are accusing us of a thousand evils. But it's always easier to look through Judah than to look at its rags.
In short, to put it simply, it's always easier to see the beam than the chaff, especially as with beams you build something solid, whereas with chaff... you might as well drink a mike shake, otherwise you're not making much sense.
Il pourra dire ok la CEDH a condamné la Suisse pour non entrée en matière par rapport au changement climatique, mais nous voulons nous rattraper aujourd’hui car nous avons pris conscience de ce fléau qui est le plus important à l’heure actuelle. Nous savons également que X nations nous accusent de mille maux. Mais, c’est toujours plus facile de regarder par le Juda que t’observer ses oripeaux.
Bref, pour faire simple, il est toujours plus facile de voir la poutre que la paille, d’autant plus qu’avec des poutres ont construit du solide alors qu’avec la paille… à la limite tu bois un mike shake autrement tu fais pas grand chose de censé.
With this over-industrialisation, this massacre of nourishing farmland for buildings and roads. It's much easier to blame cows that burp or fart, when we already have 300,000 fewer cows than in 1990. As far as biodiversity is concerned, unlimited concreting is the main negative factor, which also encourages flooding.
Avec ce trop plein d'industrialisation, ce massacre des terres agricoles nourricières pour les constructions et les routes. On va à l'encontre des mesures de protection de l'environnement, de l'alimentation de notre population, C'est bien plus facile d'accuser les vaches qui rotent ou qui pètent , alors que nous avons déjà 300'000 vaches de moins qu'en l'an 1990. Concernant la biodiversité, le bétonnage sans limite est le principal principal facteur négatif qui en plus favorise les inondations .
New job for Alain Berset as GENERAL Secretary of the Council of Europe. His impact will be limited to beautifully worded, elegant and eloquent phrases / motto "The main thing: General".
Neuer Job für Alain Berset als GENERAL-Sekretär des Europa-Rates. Seine Wirkung wird sich in den Grenzen von schön-formulierten, eleganten und eloquenten Phrasen erschöpfen / Motto "Hauptsache: General".
Mr Berset may be a little "unconventional", but I think he is very well qualified as Secretary General of the Council of Europe. He will be a good ambassador for our country.
Herr Berset ist zwar etwas "unkonventionell", aber ich glaube als Generalsekretär des Europarates ist er sehr gut qualifiziert. Er wird ein guter Botschafter unseres Landes sein.
I have no illusions about his potential to influence the decisions of the Council of Europe. I only hope that he will be a good moderator as he always was after all.
Non mi faccio certo illusione sulle sue potenzialità di influire sulle decisioni del Consiglio di Europa. Spero solo che sia un buon moderatore come lo fu da sempre del resto.
Alain Berset will do the Council of Europe good, if you only consider how he has mastered our corona crisis. Bravo Mr Berset!
Alain Berset wird dem Europarat gut anstehen, wenn man nur bedenkt wie er unsere Corona-Krise gemeistert hat. Bravo Herr Berset !
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