What is your country doing to protect you from the impacts of climate change?
The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Switzerland violated its elderly citizens’ human rights by not doing enough to curb climate change. What is the government in the country where you live doing to protect you from the negative impacts of global warming? Do you feel that your right to a good environment is respected?
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Well, no, it's not respected, that's for sure.
But in any case, there are so many things that aren't respected.
No, but there's the rub. It's knowing the interests, the dissonances, the low blows of each other and just being a witness.
Ex: I don't think it's fair on GE, but the rise of a certain nationalism tinged with Druidic ideology no longer needs to be demonstrated.
Well, this kind of thinking has been emulated not only in so-called right-wing and far-right circles, but also in fairly macho circles (it's perhaps not a generality, but just enough to fan the flames), as if climate change wasn't enough to disorientate people.
It's obvious that Switzerland isn't doing enough, but on the other hand, as one guy once said, people just don't feel like it (by which he meant making an effort).
Besides, Switzerland is certainly not the last country on the long list of climate justice abusers, but it's always easier to criticise a country that is said to be rich but democratic (because we tell ourselves that money will heal the wounds) than to stigmatise countries where democracy has all but disappeared and where money is in the hands of dictators.
Ben non, il n’est pas respecté ça c’est certain.
Mais de toute façon, il y a tellement de chose qui ne sont pas respectées.
Non, mais là où le bât blesse. C’est de savoir les intérêts, les dissonances, les coups bas des uns et des autres et d’être juste témoin.
Ex : je pense que c’est pas juste sur GE, mais la montée d’un certain nationalisme teinté d’idéologie druidiques n’est plus à démontrer.
Et bien, cette pensée a fait des émules et pas rien que dans des milieux dit de droite ou d’extrême-droite on l’a retrouve aussi dans des milieux justes machiste ( c’est peut-être pas une généralité mais juste assez pour attiser le feu ) Comme si le dérèglement climatique ne suffisait pas à désorienter les gens.
C’est évident que la Suisse ne fait assez mais d’autre côté, comme le l’a dit une fois un gars : mais les gens on pas envie. ( sous-entendu de faire des efforts. )
Et puis, ce pays n’est certainement pas le dernier sur la longue liste des pourfendeurs de la justice climatique mais c’est toujours plus simple de taper sur un pays dit riche mais démocratique ( car on se dit que l’argent pourra colmater les plaies) que de stigmatiser des pays où la démocratie n’existe déjà presque plus et où l’argent se retrouve entre les mains de dictateurs.
? Isn't it the case that the senior citizens' group, with a lot of civil courage, stands up for ALL citizens of Switzerland: adults, children, infants ? Everyone will suffer increasingly in the course of climate change,
not only in Switzerland, but worldwide. The problem is GLOBAL.
I thank the women for their commitment: CHAPEAU !
The world is currently undergoing a military build-up: the defence industry is "happy" about arms sales amounting to 2,200 billion US dollars.
? What was that again about the right to a healthy environment ?
Instead of setting up international funds that are urgently needed to cover the damage caused by climate change in the future and, for example, to finance desalination plants for developing countries
the powerful on this planet invest in weapons and wars that only bring more suffering and destruction to the earth.
In 2022, the damage caused by climate change will amount to around 270 billion dollars.
The damage caused by droughts, forest fires and floods will increase even more in the future.
? Do you think that the politicians who are calling for more money for war material (... "for our security" ...) are the right people to lead us out of the climate-related misery ?
24 April 2024 Thank you - Yours sincerely : AVALANCHE
? Ist es nicht so, dass sich die Seniorengruppe mit viel Zivilcourage für ALLE Bürger:innen der Schweiz einsetzen : Erwachsene, Kinder, Kleinkinder ? Jeder Mensch wird im Laufe des Klimawandels zunehmend zu leiden haben,
nicht nur in der Schweiz, sondern weltweit. Das Problem ist GLOBAL.
Ich danke den Frauen für Ihren Einsatz : CHAPEAU !
Weltweit wird zur Zeit militärisch aufgerüstet : Die Rüstungs-Industrie "freut sich" über Waffenverkäufe in der Höhe von 2'200 Milliarden US Dollar .
? Wie war das noch gleich mit dem Recht auf eine gesunde Umwelt ?
Anstatt international Fonds einzurichten die dringend benötigt werden um die Schäden des Klimawandels in Zukunft abdecken zu können und z.B. Entsalzungsanlagen für Entwicklungsländer zu finanzieren
investieren die Mächtigen auf diesem Planeten in Waffen und Kriege, die nur noch mehr Leid und Zerstörung auf der Erde bringen.
Im Jahre 2022 betrugen die Schäden durch den Klimawandel gegen 270 Milliarden Dollar.
Die Schäden bedingt durch Dürren, Waldbrände, Ueberschwemmungen , werden in Zukunft noch vermehrt zunehmen .
? Glauben Sie, dass die Politiker die mehr Geld für Kriegsmaterial (..."zu unserer Sicherheit" ...) einfordern, die richtigen Leute sind , um uns aus der klimabedingten Misere herauszuführen ?
24. April 2024 Danke - Ich grüsse sie alle freundlichst : AVALANCHE
I suspect nothing. The cost of fighting it is passed on to the people. How many solar panels do you see on any roof? Do home owners or landlords get financial aid to install solar panels, so they do not need to increase e.g. rent? What help does the Gov give to people so they can buy an e-car (currently about double the cost of a fossil fuel car, due to the battery)? How are the public transport companies making it more attractive to travel by tram/bus/train than by car? Not just the price but the travel experience.
The ECHR judges obviously do not know the legally anchored human rights agreements: The judgement against Switzerland is pure arbitrariness and a "slap in the face" against Switzerland, which will not agree to the unilateral treaty with the EU at the ballot box! The judgement will now bring even more down-to-earth direct democrats to the polls with a NO vote! That is why this unbelievable judgement will be an "own goal" for the ECHR arrogance!
Die EGMR-Richter kennen offenbar die gesetzlich verankerten Menschenrechts-Vereinbarungen nicht: Das Urteil gegen die Schweiz ist reine Willkür und eine "Ohrfeige" gegen die Schweiz. die nicht dem einseitigen Vertrag mit der EU an der Urne einmal zustimmen wird! Das Urteil wird jetzt noch mehr bodenständige Direktdemokraten mit einem NEIN an die Urnen bringen! Darum wird dieses unglaubliche Urteil für die EGMR Arroganz zum "Eigentor"!
Hello,
Thank you for giving us this opportunity to speak.
I'd like to make three points:
1° If the members of parliament had listened to the demands of these elderly women, they would not have gone to court. That is precisely their responsibility.
2° In Switzerland, the people are sovereign. So citizens are supposed to be responsible. Before going to court, they should ask themselves what they are doing for the climate. Then what they are doing to convince their fellow citizens to take steps to ensure that the future is "sustainable", and not to make the most of what we have, too bad for the next generation, namely our children.
3° How can we make all the parties responsible (it's not just up to the Greens to protect the country from collapse) for the sustainability of our behaviour? And I would add, in particular for toilets. It's a disaster in our country.
I say it, and I try to do it. I've signed up to "Swisstainable" to give myself a reference point for what I'm doing.
http://www.seroyaumer.ch
Thank you for reading and good luck with the rest.
All the best.
Jean-Denis
Bonjour,
Merci d'offrir cet espace de parole.
J'aimerais apporter trois éléments:
1° Si les parlementaires avaient écouté ces femmes du troisième âge dans leur revendication, elles ne seraient pas allées devant la justice. Ils ont cette responsabilité là précisément.
2° En Suisse, le peuple est souverain. Donc le citoyen est sensé être responsable. Avant d'aller devant la justice, il doit se demander ce qu'il fait lui pour le climat. Puis ce qu'il fait pour convaincre ses concitoyens d'entreprendre des démarches pour que l'avenir soit "durable", et non pas profiter au max de ce qui nous avons, tant pis pour les suivants, à savoir nos enfants.
3° Comment responsabiliser tous les partis (il n'appartient pas qu'au verts de protéger le territoire de la débâcle) quand à la durabilité de nos comportements? Et j'ajouterais, en particulier pour les toilettes. C'est une catastrophe dans notre pays.
Je le dis, et je m'efforce de le faire. Je me suis inscrit à "Swisstainable" pour me donner une référence par rapport à ce que j'entreprends.
www.seroyaumer.ch
Merci de votre lecture et bon courage pour la suite.
Cordialement.
Jean-Denis
My Opinion is that more than enough is being done by the Government of Switzerland to address climate issues revolving around the 0.04% of Co2 in the atmosphere. However, There seems to be a worldwide reluctance to do anything about actual the chemical pollution of our environment?
Thank you for your message. According to independent assessments, including one by the Climate Action Tracker (CAT) dated June 2023, Switzerland's efforts to combat global warming are 'insufficient'. If all countries followed Switzerland's climate policies and actions, the average global temperature increase compared to the pre-industrial level would be between 2 and 3 degrees Celsius, according to CAT.
Like emissions, chemical pollution is also on the rise. Of concern are not only micro- and nanoplastics, but also synthetic substances known as PFAS or 'forever chamicals'. I invite you to read our interview with an expert on chemical pollutants, who also explains what countries are doing to reduce the production and use of PFAS.
Grazie per il suo messaggio. Stando ad alcune valutazioni indipendenti, tra cui quella del Climate Action Tracker (CAT) risalente al giugno 2023, l'impegno della Svizzera nel contrastare il riscaldamento climatico è "insufficiente". Se tutti i Paesi seguissero le politiche e le azioni climatiche della Svizzera, l'aumento della temperatura media globale rispetto al livello preindustriale sarebbe compreso tra i 2 e i 3 gradi Celsius, secondo il CAT.
Come le emissioni, anche l'inquinamento chimico è in aumento. A preoccupare non sono solo le micro- e le nanoplastiche, ma anche le sostanze sintetiche note come PFAS o "forever chamicals". La invito a leggere la nostra intervista a un esperto di inquinanti chimici, che spiega anche cosa stanno facendo i Paesi per ridurre la produzione e l'uso delle PFAS.
Do not confuse 'Switzerland' with 'the Swiss government'. The Swiss government has proposed several laws against global warming. The Swiss people, the people of the cantons, have rejected enough of them. So, it is the people who are to blame. Which seems ridiculous to me.
Non confondere "la Svizzera" con "il governo svizzero". Il governo svizzero ha proposto parecchie legge contro il riscaldamento climatico. Il popolo svizzero, il popolo dei cantini ne ha rifiutati abbastanza. Quini, sarebbe il popolo il responsabile da condannare. Il che mi pare ridicolo.
The Swiss people will once again have their say on 9 June, when they will be asked to vote on the federal law on a secure electricity supply with renewable energies. For those who would like to know more: https://www.swissinfo.ch/ita/politica-federale/alla-svizzera-serve-energia-ma-quale-votazioni-9-giugno-elettricit%c3%a0/75962877
Popolo svizzero che avrà ancora una volta la possibilità di dire la sua, il prossimo 9 giugno, quando sarà chiamato a esprimersi sulla legge federale su un approvvigionamento elettrico sicuro con le energie rinnovabili. Per chi desiderasse saperne di più: https://www.swissinfo.ch/ita/politica-federale/alla-svizzera-serve-energia-ma-quale-votazioni-9-giugno-elettricit%c3%a0/75962877
I don't care what the world does. I 'do' at home. I encourage my neighbours to get involved. The same goes for my family. And the world will follow.
We have many 'totally irresponsible' companies in our area. They have their headquarters here... They flout human rights (for me, humans do not come before nature) to the hilt. And why do they do this? Simply because I, as an ordinary citizen, want my car to fetch bread when it rains... So I'm just as responsible as the companies that try so hard to provide me with what I want...
Jean-Denis
Je m'en moque de ce que fait le monde. Je "fais" chez moi. J'encourage mes voisins à s'engager. Idem pour ma famille. Et le monde suivra.
Nous avons sur notre territoire moult entreprises "totalement irresponsables". Elles ont leur siège chez nous... Elles bafouent les droits humains (pour moi, les humains ne passent pas avant la nature) dans les grandes largeurs. Et pourquoi? Simplement parce que moi, simple citoyen, je veux ma voiture pour aller chercher du pain quand il pleut... Donc je suis tout aussi responsable que ces entreprises qui s'acharnent à me fournir ce que je demande...
Jean-Denis
Pessimistic and disillusioned...as long as hordes of lobbyists have so much influence - not much progress will ever be accomplished. :-(
Good morning VeraGottlieb and thank you for your comment. In 2022, at the UN Climate Change Conference in Sharm El Sheikh (COP27), Egypt, some 630 lobbyists from the fossil industry were present. The following year in Dubai (COP28), their number quadrupled. World-renowned Swiss climate scientist Sonia Seneviratne's wish that fossil fuel lobbyists should be excluded from climate conferences evidently did not come true.
Buongiorno VeraGottlieb e grazie per il suo commento. Nel 2022, in occasione della Conferenza delle Nazioni Unite sui cambiamenti climatici tenutasi a Sharm El Sheikh (COP27), in Egitto, erano presenti circa 630 lobbisti dell'industria fossile. L'anno successivo a Dubai (COP28), il loro numero è quadruplicato. L'auspicio della climatologa svizzera di fama mondiale Sonia Seneviratne, secondo cui i lobbisti delle energie fossili andrebbero esclusi dalle conferenze sul clima, evidentemente non si è avverato.
I don't agree with that statement.
As long as I ask lobbyists to supply me with petrol, batteries, shampoo and so on, nothing will change.
When we stop blaming the bad guys, things will change.
Jean-Denis
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec cette affirmation.
Tant que je demande aux lobbyistes de me fournir de l'essence, des piles, du shampoo et j'en passe..., rien ne changera.
Quand nous cesserons de rejeter la "faute" sur les méchants, ça changera.
Jean-Denis
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