Stock Slide Deepens in Run-Up to Nvidia and Jobs: Markets Wrap
(Bloomberg) — Wall Street traders gearing up for Nvidia Corp.’s earnings and the jobs report shunned riskier assets as both events will be key in shaping the global financial outlook throughout the rest of 2025.
Just ahead of tests of the two main pillars of the stock bull market — prospects for artificial intelligence and Federal Reserve rate cuts — equities fell alongside crypto. The S&P 500 slid almost 1% — breaching a technical mark seen by many as a gateway to more losses. The gauge snapped 138 sessions during which it held above the 50-day moving average, its second-longest stretch this century.
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Nvidia’s report Wednesday will come out amid investor uneasiness about stratospheric AI valuations even though the chipmaker is expected to deliver another earnings beat. Then there’s the September jobs report, which will be released Thursday after a delay due to the US shutdown.
Fed Vice Chair Philip Jefferson said he sees risks to the labor market as skewed to the downside, but warned that policymakers need to proceed slowly. Fed Governor Christopher Waller is backing a December rate cut amid weak jobs.
“The monthly jobs report would normally dominate this week’s economic calendar, but with the AI trade struggling the past couple of weeks, Nvidia’s earnings are once again looking like a key piece of the market’s momentum puzzle,” said Chris Larkin at E*Trade from Morgan Stanley.
More than 400 shares in the S&P 500 fell, with the gauge closing around 6,672. Nvidia slipped as Peter Thiel’s hedge fund Thiel Macro LLC sold off its entire stake in the chipmaker last quarter. Alphabet Inc. climbed as Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. built a $4.9 billion stake in the third quarter.
The yield on 10-year Treasuries slid two basis points to 4.13%. Amazon.com Inc. is set to raise $15 billion from its first US dollar bond offering in three years. The dollar rose. Bitcoin sank below $92,000.
Historically, when the S&P 500 breaches its 50-day moving average after such a lengthy stretch, it points to further short-run losses. The S&P 500 has suffered an average maximum loss of 1.3% two weeks after such a streak ends, according to data going back to the 1920s compiled by Jay Kaeppel at SentimenTrader. But one-month later, it has averaged a 1.9% rise.
“While the long-term uptrend is intact, we believe a corrective pullback/consolidation phase is already underway after the market’s six-month winning streak,” said Craig Johnson at Piper Sandler. “The technical evidence shows that breadth has deteriorated, with a rotation beyond just technology.”
Johnson sees two scenarios after a breach of the 50-day moving average.
The first one would be a quick pullback to the S&P 500 support around 6,500, resulting in more “backing and filling” and sector rotation in the upcoming weeks.
And the second one would imply a deeper drawdown unfolding, with the gauge targeting the 200-day moving average — currently around 6,150 — and ultimately setting up a recovery by year-end and finishing around his 6,600 target.
Meantime, Nvidia earnings this Wednesday now stand as the next significant risk for participants to navigate, especially with the market seemingly having taken a much less euphoric view of the whole AI frenzy in recent weeks, noted Michael Brown at Pepperstone.
An analysis of 13F filings from 909 hedge funds found an even split of investor sentiment on Nvidia: 161 increased their investment positions in the giant chipmaker, while 160 decreased them during the three months to September. Opinions remain divided about the prospects for AI companies, which continue to raise and spend funds at elevated rates but have yet to demonstrate monetization models that would pay off the lofty investments.
Tom Essaye points to the rising number of opinions doubting the sustainability of the AI capital expenditures boom is leading to a rise in skepticism. Now, investors expect strong Nvidia earnings to quell the recent uptick in AI uncertainty.
“But what if that doesn’t happen? What if Nvidia results aren’t good enough to stop this modest increase in AI skepticism? In that case, can the rest of the market hold up while tech/AI decline?” said the founder of The Sevens Report. “History implies it’s not likely, but it is possible.”
As important as those results will be, they might not be as important as the question of whether the narrative is changing on the AI phenomenon or not, according to Matt Maley at Miller Tabak.
“It’s becoming harder and harder to justify a bullish argument based on the profitability of AI,” he said.
As traders position for the high-profile results from the last of the “Magnificent Seven” to report, Nicholas Ware, James Donahue and Mike Talaga at Janus Henderson noted that big tech is making greater use of the debt markets with heavier issuance — shifting from a predominantly cash-funded model to using more leverage as they compete in the AI arms race.
“Credit markets remain open but cautious, demanding premiums even from highly rated technology issuers, potentially stalling the overall grind tighter in credit spreads,” they said. “While the credit fundamentals of big tech appear robust, the rise in debt issuance means investors need to consider the interplay between AI investment, corporate issuance and credit spreads.”
“On the macro level, an AI bubble or potential crash from the current lofty valuations of hyperscalers is not our base case; we deem either outcome as premature,” said Tracy Chen at Brandywine Global. “However, heavy stock market concentration in ‘Magnificent Seven’ companies and lack of market breadth warrant precautions.”
For now, Invesco noted that investors had appeared to be steeling themselves for a market pullback. After a relentless surge from April lows, conversations about a stock bubble and stretched valuations have grown louder.
“That backdrop may have made last week’s pullback feel inevitable,” said Brian Levitt and Benjamin Jones at Invesco. “The unwind was concentrated in megacap growth names, the very stocks that powered the rally. To us, this isn’t about broken business models but rather skepticism toward lofty valuations.”
That’s why they don’t view it as the bursting of a stock bubble, but rather as a healthy reset following a sizeable advance.
“While we should expect an eventual reckoning for blindly throwing trillions of dollars at AI capital expenditures with no clear path to profitability, markets are unlikely to tip over while the Fed is still in easing mode and the economy is still strong,” said Dennis Follmer at Montis Financial.
Morgan Stanley’s Michael Wilson, who became one of the most bullish voices on US stocks, expects the S&P 500 to trade around 7,800 points by end-2026. That’s among the highest targets from strategists tracked by Bloomberg, and would mean a fourth straight year of double-digit gains for the index.
“We’re in the midst of a new bull market and earnings cycle, especially for many of the lagging areas of the index,” Wilson wrote in a note.
Aaron Nordvik, head of macro equity strategy for UBS’s trading floor, said he sees the S&P 500 breaching the 7,000 milestone before year-end and advised clients to buy any pullback.
From a seasonal standpoint, “buy in November” returns — the subsequent six month period through April — are strong when the “sell in May” period — May to October — defies its bearish reputation like it did this year, according to Nordvik. The S&P 500 was up another 7.3% on average in the last two months of the year when gains from May to October exceeded 10%, going back to 1950. The S&P 500 climbed 17% in that period this year.
“More clarity is coming this week with Nvidia’s earnings and the delayed release of the September jobs report on Thursday, but these events have the potential to spike volatility even further,” said Follmer at Montis Financial.
A surprisingly strong or surprisingly weak September jobs number would likely have a big impact on expectations for a December rate cut since the Fed is so split on next steps, he said.
“While we should expect an eventual reckoning for blindly throwing trillions of dollars at AI capital expenditures with no clear path to profitability, markets are unlikely to tip over while the Fed is still in easing mode and the economy is still strong,” Follmer added.
“There’s no question that market bulls want to get a beat-and-raise from Nvidia, but when considering what the desired outcome is for jobs, things get complicated,” said Jose Torres at Interactive Brokers.
A fragile result would certainly tilt the odds in favor of a December cut, Torres said. However, a figure that reflects too much weakness could ignite concerns about a slowdown and fail to lead to equity price appreciation, although Treasuries would likely rally. On the other hand, a strong showing would serve losses to both asset classes because it justifies the Fed’s hawkish posturing at the moment, he noted.
“Our view is that the labor market will remain the deciding factor for rates for the time being. And alternative data sources, such as jobless claims, ADP, and Challenger reports, continue to paint a weak labor market picture,” said Ulrike Hoffmann-Burchardi at UBS Global Wealth Management. “We therefore still expect a cut in December.”
Last week, futures traders pushed the odds of a quarter-point rate cut in December below 50% as some Fed officials indicated that such a move is far from a sure thing.
Interest-rate strategists at Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Barclays Plc and Bank of America Corp. are among those expecting US economic data delayed by the US government shutdown will revive the case for a Fed interest-rate cut in December.
Though Treasury yields are little changed from late-September levels, “reductions in near-term cut pricing and lower front-end inflation through the course of the shutdown reflect a hawkish shift in the market’s Fed assessment,” a Goldman team including William Marshall and George Cole wrote in a Nov. 14 report.
Investors and policymakers continue to wait on further updates to economic data calendars by official statistics agencies.
Government funding resumed days ago following the longest shutdown in US history, but agencies are running behind on most data collection for key October reports on employment and inflation. The process of catching up will likely stretch well into November on economic information that in any event is growing increasingly stale.
The dearth of official data helps explain recent comments by a number of policymakers that they should hold the line on interest rates when the meet next month. The Fed on Wednesday will issue minutes of its October meeting.
“There will be great interest in the minutes, as Fed Chair Jerome Powell created some uncertainty about possible central bank actions during his press conference after the October meeting,” noted L. Thomas Block at Fundstrat Global Advisors.
Corporate Highlights:
Peter Thiel’s hedge fund Thiel Macro LLC sold its stake in Nvidia Corp. during the third quarter, marking yet another retreat from investments in the world’s leading provider of artificial intelligence chips. Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. acquired 17.9 million shares of Google parent Alphabet Inc. during the third quarter, while further trimming its holdings in Bank of America Corp. and Apple Inc. Google DeepMind has released a new artificial intelligence weather model that it says is faster and more accurate than anything it’s built before, while providing additional tools for energy traders. Ford Motor Co. has struck a deal with Amazon.com Inc. to sell certified used cars through its e-commerce website, becoming the second major automaker to reach customers through the massive online retailer. A memory “supercycle” increasingly poses a risk to earnings of hardware original equipment and design manufacturers (OEMs and ODMs), Morgan Stanley analysts wrote as they cut ratings on HP, Dell, Pegatron and Asustek to underweight. KKR & Co. agreed to purchase as much as €65 billion ($75.4 billion) of buy-now, pay-later loans from PayPal Holdings Inc. as part of an extension of a two-year-old agreement between the two companies. Johnson & Johnson has agreed to buy the cancer treatment biotech Halda Therapeutics for $3.05 billion cash, part of a strategy to cope with eroding sales for its major psoriasis drug. Novo Nordisk A/S is undercutting arch-rival Eli Lilly & Co. on obesity drugs for cash-pay patients, showing its willingness to compete on price as it tries to claw back a larger share of the US market. UBS Group AG Chairman Colm Kelleher held talks with US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent about potentially moving the bank’s headquarters to the US amid the ongoing uncertainty over Switzerland’s upcoming capital reforms, the Financial Times reported. Societe Generale SA unveiled a €1 billion ($1.2 billion) share buyback, a boost for investors who have been holding out for more payouts. Euronext NV has secured the minimum threshold required to acquire Hellenic Exchanges, according to people familiar with the matter, clearing the way for the bourse to further expand its reach in Europe. Siemens Healthineers AG is studying options for its Diagnostics business that could include a future sale, a few days after former parent Siemens AG said it plans to reduce its majority holding in the maker of MRI scanners. TotalEnergies SE agreed to buy a 50% stake in a portfolio of European power assets for about €5.1 billion ($5.9 billion), expanding in the sector even as some major oil and gas peers retreat. Sea Ltd. shares gained after the Southeast Asian internet giant unveiled its first buyback program, taking advantage of an almost 30% plunge in its stock price to reward investors. Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd.’s profit climbed on the back of an ongoing discounting campaign that turbo-charged sales even as China’s regulator has stepped up scrutiny on price wars. What Bloomberg Strategists say…
“The artificial intelligence narrative is starting to look less convincing for investors who are questioning the big-spending industry’s ambition. Nvidia’s quarterly earnings Wednesday offer the next chance to scrutinize AI and, if recent history is any guide, traders will treat it as an excuse to take profit.” — Sebastian Boyd, Macro Strategist, Markets Live. For the full analysis, click here.
Some of the main moves in markets:
Stocks
The S&P 500 fell 0.9% as of 4 p.m. New York time The Nasdaq 100 fell 0.8% The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1.2% The MSCI World Index fell 0.9% Bloomberg Magnificent 7 Total Return Index was little changed The Russell 2000 Index fell 2% Nvidia fell 1.8% Alphabet rose 3.1% Currencies
The Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index rose 0.3% The euro fell 0.3% to $1.1589 The British pound fell 0.1% to $1.3156 The Japanese yen fell 0.4% to 155.22 per dollar Cryptocurrencies
Bitcoin fell 1.6% to $91,966.68 Ether fell 1.8% to $3,016.4 Bonds
The yield on 10-year Treasuries declined two basis points to 4.13% Germany’s 10-year yield was little changed at 2.71% Britain’s 10-year yield declined four basis points to 4.53% The yield on 2-year Treasuries was little changed at 3.60% The yield on 30-year Treasuries declined two basis points to 4.73% Commodities
West Texas Intermediate crude fell 0.5% to $59.76 a barrel Spot gold fell 1% to $4,042.10 an ounce ©2025 Bloomberg L.P.
