瑞士还能充当国际调解者吗？
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瑞士的中立立场有助于解决世界不同地区的武装冲突及其他各类冲突，这对世界和平具有重要意义。 另一方面，考虑到诸如与以东人关系等远古的人类学因素，在以色列和约旦等其他国家建立对话渠道以实现持久和平，可被视为积极举措。 或许，我们面临的问题是：瑞士试图搭建的和平桥梁是否真正有用。 原则上，这些努力看似有益，但考虑到瑞士的民主价值观，它们不应因此动摇该国的中立地位及《瑞士联邦宪法》的基本原则。因此，瑞士作为调解方的角色确实是恰当的， 但同时必须确保所签署的和平协议结论符合国家法律，并尊重瑞士作为中立国、文件避风港及极具价值的金融中心的地位，始终恪守此类谈判应受的最终法律监督。 塞萨尔·德·卢卡斯·伊沃拉。阿利坎特圣胡安。西班牙。
El hecho que la neutralidad suiza pueda ayudar a resolver conflictos armados y de otro tipo en diferentes regiones del mundo, es un aspecto importante para la paz mundial. Por otro lado, el que puedan existir canales de diálogo en otros países como por ejemplo Israel y Jordania, para llegar a establecer una paz duradera puede ser considerado positivo teniendo en cuenta aspectos antediluvianos antropológicos como las relaciones con los pueblos edomitas. Quizá, el interrogante que se nos plantea es si los puentes para la paz que Suiza intenta establecer son útiles o no. En principio, pueden parecer útiles, pero no por ello deben poner en duda la neutralidad del estado y los principios básicos de la Constitución Suiza, teniendo en cuenta sus valores democráticos. Por tanto, sí que parece el papel como mediador del país sea correcto, pero valorando al mismo tiempo que las conclusiones de los acuerdos de paz que se firmen, sean compatibles con la legislación estatal y respetando al mismo tiempo el concepto de estado suizo como lugar neutral, refugio documental, y financiero de gran valor, respetando siempre el control jurídico en última instancia que deben tener este tipo de negociaciones. César De Lucas Ivorra. San Juan de Alicante. España.
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遗憾的是，我们的当局为了讨好欧盟，竟在玩火。结果是，我国的中立地位因此遭受了沉重打击。 我们的政客和日内瓦已不再受人欢迎。显然，欧盟很满意瑞士不再是当今动荡世界中的调解典范。 由马克龙和冯德莱恩傲慢领导的27国欧盟正日益令人失望；缺乏真正的民主、布鲁塞尔代表缺乏远见，加上高昂的运作成本，将导致我们各国未来陷入贫困。
Malheureusement, nos Autorités, ont joué avec le feu, pour faire plaisir à l'UE. Le résultat, est que la neutralité de notre Pays , en a pris un Sale coup. Nos politiciens et Genève , n'ont plus la cote . De toute évidence, l'UE est satisfaite que la Suisse n'est plus l'exemple de médiateur que le monde tourmenté actuel. L'UE des 27 menée avec arrogance par Macron et V.der Leiyen déçoit de plus en plus ; l'absence de vraie démocratie, le manque de clairvoyance des représentants à Bruxelles , avec des coûts de fonctionnement ruineux conduisent à une future pauvreté de nos États.
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是的，我相信瑞士能够胜任这一角色，因为这是一个尊重民主、信息自由流通、社会凝聚力强且政府运转良好的国家。
Yes, I trust Switzerland in this role, a country that honors democracy, free flow of information, social cohesion, a well functioning government.
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不，瑞士凭借其缺乏魅力的联邦委员们，早已丧失了这一历来肩负的使命——即为面临困境的各国人民寻找解决问题的方案。 如今情况已非如此。在欧盟的压力下，瑞士在外交领域已失去了中立的声誉。
Non, La Suisse a , avec des Conseillers fédéraux sans charisme , perdu cette mission ancestrale de trouver des solutions , permettant aux Peuples qui avaient des problèmes , de trouver des solutions . Actuellement cela , n'a plus lieu. Sous la pression de l'UE, la Suisse, a perdu sa réputation de neutralité dans la diplomatie.
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瑞士最近几乎没有采取任何行动来证明其所谓的“中立”，只是照搬美国和欧盟当前的意愿。 以色列数十年来犯下种种暴行，瑞士却对此几乎只字不提，更别说冻结那些资助暴行者的银行账户了。反观俄罗斯，只要欧盟提出要求，其账户就会立即被冻结。美国同样犯下了无数暴行……又是沉默，也没有冻结账户……事实上，瑞士既向美国也向以色列提供了资金和武器。如果我是某国元首，我几乎找不到理由信任瑞士作为调解方。 当他们谴责俄罗斯时，却似乎从未费心谴责北约的谎言及其持续的扩张主义政策。对乌克兰的腐败只字不提——而这种腐败正是由一个通过西方支持的政变上台的政府造成的。 这与以色列的情况如出一辙——我们总是一再听到关于10月7日的报道，而他们却希望我们忽略此前以色列数十年的暴行。
Switzerland has done little to show its so called neutrality recently versus parroting whatever the US and EU desire. Decades upon decades of Israeli atrocities yet barely a word and certainly no frozen bank accounts to those funding israeli atrocities. Russia on the other hand gets accounts frozen immediately upon demand of the EU. The US has committed numerous atrocities as well...again silence and no frozen accounts...in fact Switzerland has handed over money and weapons to both the US and Israel. If I was a foreign leader I wouldn't see much reason to trust the swiss to mediate . While condemning Russia they never seem to bother condemning NATO for lying and continuing its expansionist policies. Never a word against the corruption in ukraine brought by a government put into place by a western backed Coupe. Much like the israel situation where we keep hearing Oct 7th in hopes we ignore the decades upon decades of Israeli atrocities before that.
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话说回来，瑞士的中立地位确实受到了一点“冲击”，这对其作为中立谈判地点的作用产生了影响。我指的是瑞士跟随美国和欧盟对俄罗斯及其他国家实施了制裁。一旦参与制裁，就不再是中立的了。 我认为普京已经指出了这一点，而且他在这个问题上是对的。无论如何，继续尝试在各个地方为和平铺平道路是值得的。
Well, the Swiss neutrality has become a bit 'dented', which affects its role as a neutral place for negotiations. I am referring to Switzerland following US and EU sanctions on Russia and other countries. When you participate in sanctions you are no longer neutral.. I think Putin pointed that out, and he is right in this topic. Anyway, it is worth to keep trying to facilitate any ways to peace, here and there and everywhere.
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@Rafiq Tschannen
瑞士参与了约30项不同的制裁措施，其中一些已持续数十年。它甚至对乌克兰实施了制裁。 俄罗斯对这些制裁表示不满，因为这些制裁显然给该国带来了困扰。点击此处阅读更多相关内容：https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/war-peace/why-switzerland-stopped-short-of-formally-sanctioning-ukraine/91371701
Switzerland participates in roughly 30 different sanction regimes, some of them for decades. It even sanctions Ukraine. Russia is complaining about the sanctions because they are obviously a problem for them. Read more here: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/war-peace/why-switzerland-stopped-short-of-formally-sanctioning-ukraine/91371701
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对于一名调解人而言，中立性是最重要的品质之一——甚至可以说是最重要的。瑞士已不再中立，我不明白它为何还要继续声称自己中立。 瑞士缺乏中立性的一个例子是，尽管美国无数次违反国际法，瑞士却未对其实施制裁。但瑞士却迅速对俄罗斯实施了制裁，理由是声称俄罗斯违反了国际法。 ……此外，瑞士坚持对伊朗实施制裁，声称是为了维护国际安全、配合欧盟的外交政策以及执行联合国决议……至少这是他们的理由。 瑞士只不过是在听从美国和以色列的指示。而与此同时，伊朗却持续遭受这两个国家的攻击……瑞士对以色列实施过任何制裁吗？随后，瑞士又与北约进行军事演习……北约可是地球上最腐败、最无用的机构之一。 瑞士只是站在西方一边，无论西方是对是错。所以，不……我今天不信任瑞士的调解，因为这个国家在政治和国际事务上不愿走“更高尚的道路”。
One of and probably the most important quality for a mediator to have is neutrality. Switzerland is no longer neutral and I don't see why they continue to claim that they are. One example of the Swiss lack of neutrality is that they didn't put sanctions on USA for breaking international law which USA has done too many times to count. But they were quick to put sanctions on Russia because they claim that Russia broke international law. ...In addition, Switzerland maintains sanctions on Iran to sustain international security, align with EU foreign policies, and dictate UN resolutions....at least that's why they say. Switzerland is simply following the command of USA and Israel. While Iran continues to be attacked by both countries....Has Switzerland put any sanctions on Israel? Then Switzerland carries out military exercises with NATO...one of the most corrupt and useless institutions on the planet. Switzerland simply sides with the west whether they are right or wrong. So no...I don't trust Swiss mediation today because the country is not willing to take the "higher road" in political and world affairs.
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@ProperD
非常感谢您的见解。我理解您提出的顾虑，您说得对，这些确实是复杂的问题。需要澄清的是：瑞士的法律中立性并非指道德上的等同或盲目的冷漠。 这是一种国际法地位，其特征在于不参与武装冲突以及坚持武器禁运。____制裁是政治和经济手段。 瑞士接纳欧盟对俄罗斯的制裁，是基于一项明确且公开的法律评估，即俄罗斯的入侵违反了《联合国宪章》——这是140多个国家共同认同的共识。____关于您提到的其他例子： 调解人的角色并非对各方实施制裁，而是维持沟通渠道。在特定情况下决定不对美国或以色列实施制裁，并不意味着存在偏见。 至于您提到的北约演习，这些属于防御性且非战斗性的活动，因此并不违反中立法。____我赞同您的观点，即信任需要赢得。 有效的调解取决于各方的信任，尽管完美是不可能的。____以下是我们关于瑞士中立性发表的一些文章，其中自然包含批判性观点和详细说明：https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-affairs/what-does-the-future-hold-for-swiss-neutrality/45810276 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/neutrality/swiss-neutrality-your-questions-answered/89903438
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I understand the concerns you’ve raised, and you’re right that these are complex issues. Just to clarify: Switzerland’s legal neutrality is not about moral equivalence or blind equidistance. It is a status under international law, defined by non‑participation in armed conflicts and a consistent arms embargo.____Sanctions are political and economic tools. Switzerland's adoption of EU sanctions on Russia followed a clear, public legal assessment that Russia's invasion violated the UN Charter - a consensus view shared by over 140 countries.____ Regarding your other examples: a mediator’s role is not to sanction every party, but to maintain channels of communication. Choosing not to sanction the United States or Israel in specific cases does not imply bias. As for the NATO exercises you mentioned, these are defensive and non‑combat activities and therefore do not breach neutrality law.____I agree with your view that trust must be earned. Effective mediation depends on trust among all parties, even though perfection is impossible.____Here are some articles we’ve published on Swiss neutrality, which, of course, include both critical perspectives and detailed explanations: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-affairs/what-does-the-future-hold-for-swiss-neutrality/45810276 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/neutrality/swiss-neutrality-your-questions-answered/89903438
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@Ying Zhang
非常感谢您富有见地的回答。尽管如此，我仍然认为瑞士并非中立国家，而且当它不对那些犯下与俄罗斯被指控的罪行相同罪行的国家实施制裁时，其行为显然带有偏见。 事实上，唯一展现出“真正”中立态度的国家是中国——中国拒绝加入对俄罗斯的制裁，但也未对乌克兰表态。印度同样拒绝加入对俄罗斯的制裁。 在195个国家中，只有30个国家遵守了美国对俄罗斯的制裁。因此，如果瑞士是中立的，那么肯定会有许多国家与它一样，不遵守对俄罗斯的制裁，或者就此事而言，也不遵守对伊朗的制裁…… 此外，在众多美国入侵他国的事件中，瑞士从未投票支持没收美国资产，也从未投票支持没收以色列资产……2024年瑞士的现任总统是该国首位女性国防部长，她曾于2023年出席北大西洋理事会（北约）会议，旨在促进与欧盟及北约的“共同防御能力”。 她还下令将原本订购给瑞士的武器运往乌克兰。然而，所谓的“瑞士中立”原则据称不允许向处于战争状态的国家提供武器……此外，当瑞士主办乌克兰“和平峰会”却未邀请俄罗斯坐上谈判桌时，该国暴露了其“沟通渠道”的匮乏及其偏见。 我不确定您是否已意识到，乌克兰曾经也是一个中立国。自1990年独立以来，二十多年间，乌克兰一直正式宣称其意图保持不结盟、中立的国家地位 ——这一地位于1996年被写入宪法，并一直维持到2014年底，当时乌克兰正准备与俄罗斯进行一场代理人战争，并策划加入北约。 我写下这些，是为了强调瑞士（尽管我认为它仍是西方最适宜居住的国家之一）必须坚守立场，以保持中立国的形象，否则可能会陷入混乱。 瑞士的中立性曾被普遍视为全球最强有力的中立体现之一，甚至可能是最强有力的。但一旦一个国家加入好战者的行列，它就会被卷入一个体系，这个体系不会让它安宁，直到它被毁灭为止。
Thank you for your insightful reply. Nonetheless, I still hold the view that Switzerland is not a neutral country and is certainly biased when they don't place sanctions on countries that have committed the same crimes they claim that Russia has also committed. Actually, the only country that showed "real" neutrality is China who refused to join in the sanctions on Russia but didn't talk against Ukraine either. India also refused to join in with the sanctions on Russia. Out of 195 countries, only 30 have honored the US sanctions on Russia. So if Switzerland were neutral it certainly had plenty of company NOT to comply with sanctions on Russia or Iran for that matter....In addition, Switzerland didn’t vote to seize US assets on the many occasions the USA has invaded other countries nor Israel's assets....The acting president of Switzerland in 2024 was the country’s first defense minister to attend a meeting of the North Atlantic Council (NATO) in 2023 to encourage "common defense capability’ with the EU and NATO." She also had weapons that were ordered for Switzerland, delivered to Ukraine,” But "Swiss neutrality" supposedly does not allow weapons to be delivered to countries at war....What's more Switzerland revealed its lack of "channels of communication" and bias when the country hosted a "peace summit" for Ukraine without inviting Russia to the table as well. I'm not sure if you are already aware that at one time Ukraine was also a neutral country. For over two decades Ukraine officially declared its intention to remain a non-aligned, neutral state when it gained independence in 1990, a status that was legally codified in its Constitution in1996 and lasted until late 2014 when it was prepped for a proxy war with Russia with plans to join NATO. I write this to emphasize that Switzerland (though I believe that it is still one of the best countries in the west to live) has to stand its ground in order to be viewed as a neutral country or it may result in chaos. Swiss neutrality was generally seen as one of the strongest, if not the strongest, expressions of neutrality in the world. But once a country joins up with the warmongers they're dragged into a system that won't give them rest until they are ruined.
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@ProperD
非常感谢您这篇详尽的分析。您对地缘政治的见解非常发人深省。____我认为，“中立”这一概念在不同的语境下（法律、政治、道德）往往会被赋予不同的解释，这也正是该议题在瑞士国内引发了严重社会分歧的原因。 瑞士的中立政策并非一成不变；实际上，它一直在根据不断变化的地缘政治压力进行调整。 您提到的制裁政策、与北约的互动以及为“和平峰会”所做的准备，都是许多批评者用来指称瑞士背离其传统的重要论据。____因此，我认为我们就此话题发起的讨论对于理解瑞士及其他现代国家的立场至关重要。我很高兴像您这样富有洞见的读者能从更广阔的视角参与讨论。再次感谢。
Thank you for providing so much detailed analysis. Your observations on geopolitics are very insightful. ____I would say that the concept of neutrality is often interpreted differently in different contexts (legal, political, moral), which is why this topic has also sparked significant social divisions within Switzerland. Switzerland's policy of neutrality is not static; it is indeed constantly being adjusted in response to evolving geopolitical pressures. The sanctions policy you mentioned, its interactions with NATO, and the arrangements for the 'Peace Summit' are powerful arguments used by many critics to argue that Switzerland is deviating from its traditions.____That's why I believe the discussion we've initiated on this topic is crucial for understanding how Switzerland, and other modern nations, position themselves. I'm delighted to have insightful readers like you participate in the discussion from a broader perspective. Thank you again.
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