Switzerland has a reputation for being safe and rule-abiding. This makes the tragedy of the Crans-Montana bar fire all the more incomprehensible to some. Has your perception of Switzerland changed? Will the country’s reputation suffer? What do you think needs to be done to prevent Switzerland’s image from being damaged?
This event was shocking to me, even though I live here. Yes, sadly, it has changed my perception of Switzerland.
My thoughts and prayers for the victims and their families.____Now it is essential that justice is ensured.____It is also essential that the country responds with clear and effective measures to lower future risks, both for the safety of public spaces and in ensuring that convicts, banned from business in other countries, can't just settle down, open a business, buy real estate, etc. That this was possible and might in some way have lead to this immense tragedy is very trust shattering.____Some Cantons may not have enough resources, so it's time to ensure mutual support through better redistribution and updated laws.
Hello, greetings from my country, Paraguay. When I was training my colleagues to carry out planned actions, or even when I chat with my family and friends today, one of my favourite exercises was to use Switzerland as an example of excellence and success. It is a powerful perception that I understand is shared by many people internationally. Although I have never personally visited your country, I have seen photos, videos and, above all, its extraordinary economic and social results.Well, the recent tragedy that plunged those families into deep mourning for the loss of their loved ones had a strong impact on me. Switzerland, the country I used as an example of proactivity and great results, has in some cases the same problems as countries in my region, including my own (we had the tragedy of a supermarket in Asunción where a raging and preventable fire killed more than 500 people in 2004).Logically, one cannot conclude that everything is wrong in your country because of one mistake; that would be foolish extremism, going from great admiration to complete frustration with that image/country. But I am eager to see what actions will be taken to punish this criminal negligence, if there is legal culpability, and above all, what actions will be taken to correct it and set a clear and exemplary precedent for Swiss society and as a powerful international message. __Best regards and warm wishes
Hola, mis saludos desde mi país, Paraguay. Cuando entrenaba a mis compañeros de trabajo para realizar acciones planificadas o incluso cuando charlo hasta el presente con mis familiares y amigos, entre mis ejercicios favoritos era poner como ejemplo de excelencia y de éxito a Suiza, es una poderosa percepción que entiendo es compartida por numerosas personas internacionalmente, aunque no conozco personalmente su país, veos fotos, videos y por sobre todo sus resultados económicos y sociales extraordinarios.__Bien, la tragedia reciente que enlutó con gran dolor a esas familias por la pérdida de sus seres queridos me impresionó fuerte. La Suiza, el pais de mis ejemplos de proactividad y geniales resultados, tiene en algunos casos los mismos males de países de mi región, incluido el mío (tenemos la tragedia de un supermercado en Asunción que con un voraz y evitable incendio mató a más de 500 personas en el 2004).____Por un error lógicamente no se puede tachar de que todo está mal en su país, eso sería un tonto extremismo de ir de una gran admiración a una completa frustración de esa imagen/país. Pero sí estoy expectante qué acciones tomarán para castigar esa criminal negligencia si es que existe reprochabilidad legal y por sobre todo, las acciones para corregirlo y tomar acciones categóricas y ejemplares para la sociedad suiza y como un gran mensaje internacional. __Un gran saludo y abrazos
Yes - This terrible event shows the World that Switzerland is not perfect. Hopefully, in the future there will be accountability for all people involved in conducting fire inspections, submitting findings, corrections, and this would improve throughout the country for the safety of all.
Hello, I think that nothing will change in terms of the facts; Switzerland is clearly divided; it is the decision taken in the judgement that will show where the Swiss spirit really lies. Being too lenient will only lead some to stop carrying out checks, and being too harsh will discourage the measures that are in place. We need an exemplary punishment that makes sense to everyone. And on a global scale, Switzerland would have the power to stop the production of these foams, which have already caused too many deaths. Look up "nightclub fires" on Wikipedia and you will see that it is carnage. If Switzerland does nothing, then I do not think we will see an end to this type of accident any time soon. These accidents are no longer accidents; we know that foam burns and that people who are intoxicated do not react like everyone else.(There is a series on the Kiss nightclub in South America – same conditions). An external committee could classify "high-risk" activities in Switzerland, which would help managers to request inspections of their businesses during large parties instead of rushing to carry out work and waiting for inspections. Switzerland has taken a serious blow, and I am certain that very sensible decisions will restore this beautiful country to our hearts. It is so upsetting. Personally, I love Switzerland for its decision-making power. I am really hoping for an original and sensible decision, such as allowing the Morettis to spend the rest of their time not brooding in prison but giving them something important to do, such as enforcing the ban on the production of these foams. This is a real scourge and would be the beginning of a wonderful awareness of the materials that surround us. Girls were burned more than boys because of their tights, etc. We must stop using this type of material, producing it and selling it. __All this is not insignificant. The day after the tragedy, there was a massive sale of these plates on T*mu. This has to stop... modernity has its limits. __Thank you for this question and for this forum.
Bonjour, __Je pense que sur les faits, rien ne changera; la Suisse est clairement divisée; c’est sur la décision prise au jugement qu’on verra où se trouve réellement l’esprit suisse. __Etre trop clément n’amènera que certains à arrêter les contrôles et être trop sévère dissuadera les choses en place. __Il faut une peine exemplaire, qui ait du sens pour chacun. __Et mondialement, la Suisse aurait le pouvoir de faire stopper la production de ces mousses qui ont déjà fait trop de morts. Regardez sur Wikipedia « incendies dans les discothèques » vous verrez que c’est un carnage. __Si la Suisse ne fait rien, alors je pense que ça ne sera pas demain qu’on ne verra plus ce genre d’accidents. ____Ces accidents n’en sont plus, on est au courant que les mousses brûlent et que les gens alcoolisés ne réagissent pas comme les autres.( Il y a une série sur la discothèque le Kiss en Amérique du Sud- mêmes conditions)____Un comité extérieur aux pompiers pourrait faire un classement des activités « à risque » en Suisse, cela aiderait les gérants à aller demander un contrôle de leur commerce lors de grandes fêtes au lieu de faire des travaux à la va vite et d’attendre les contrôles. __La Suisse a pris un sérieux coup et je suis certaine que des décisions très sensées vont remettre ce beau pays dans nos cœurs, cela est tellement bouleversant..____Personnellement j’adore la Suisse pour son pouvoir décisionnaire. J’attends vraiment une décision originale et sensée, comme le fait que les Moretti puissent passer le reste de leur temps non pas à ruminer en prison mais qu’on leur donne quelque chose à faire d’important, comme porter l’interdiction de la production de ces mousses. __C’est un vrai fléau ça serait le début d’une superbe prise de conscience des matériaux qui nous entourent. Les filles ont été brûlées plus que les garçons à cause de leur collants etc il faut arrêter d’utiliser ce genre de matière, de les produire de les vendre. __Tout cela n’est pas anodin. Le lendemain du drame, sur T*mu il y avait en gros vente massive de ces plaques, il faut que ça cesse…la modernité a ses limites. __Merci de cette question et de ce forum.
The lack of controls can happen anywhere in the world and may be motivated by corruption among inspectors who are supposed to ensure the safety of enclosed public spaces. Added to this is the lack of responsibility on the part of municipal authorities in ensuring that their subordinates carry out their control tasks with responsibility and professional ethics, such as checking materials, fire extinguishers and emergency exit doors twice a year, as well as ensuring that those responsible for the safety of the premises, as well as the owners and employees, follow a safety protocol and carry out emergency drills once a month. And to top off this tragedy: what were parents thinking when they gave their underage children credit or debit cards to buy drinks in establishments for people over 18? If there had not been so many minors present that night, the capacity would have been slightly lower and perhaps the number of deaths and injuries would have been lower because so many people would not have been trapped and trampled, which determined the scale of such a tragedy.
La falta de controles puede suceder en todo el mundo y quizás sea motivado por la corrupción de inspectores que deberían garantizar la seguridad de los espacios públicos cerrados. A eso se le suma la falta de responsabilidad que las autoridades municipales tuvieron a la hora de controlar que sus subordinados cumplieran con sus tareas de control con responsabilidad y ética profesional como ser la de realizar controles de materiales, matafuegos y puertas de salida de emergencia 2 veces al año como así tmb el controlar que los encargados de la seguridad del local como así tmb los dueños y empleados siguan un protocolo de seguridad y hagan simulacros de emergencia 1 vez al mes. Y como frutilla del postre de esta tragedia: en que pensaban los padres cuando a sus hijos menores de edad les dan tarjetas de crédito o débito para que consuman bebidas en locales para gente mayor de 18 años? De no haber asistido tanta cantidad de menores de edad esa noche, la cantidad de aforo hubiese sido un poco menor y tal vez hubiese sido menor la cantidad de fallecidos y heridos porque no se hubiesen atascado y pisoteado tanta gente, lo que determinó el tamaño de semejante tragedia.
I stand with the victims' families in their profound grief and hope that those truly responsible for this tragedy will be identified, namely: the fire brigade, which failed to carry out the necessary inspections with the professional rigour required; the head of security at the venue, who should have followed fire safety protocols; the employees at the venue, who should have known how to use the fire extinguishers, which should have been sufficient in number and in proper working order; the owners of the venue, who should have marked the emergency exit doors; the parents of the minors, who accounted for half of the fatalities and injuries, who should have prohibited them from going out to celebrate in venues for adults over the age of 18, and obviously the justice system, which not only acts statically by placing only one of the owners in preventive detention and then granting him bail, but also fails to investigate the role of the fire brigade responsible for the licensing and inspection of the premises, as well as the head of the local council where the incident occurred, who should have been removed from office through impeachment proceedings.
Acompaño a los familiares de las víctimas en su profundo dolor y ojalá se llegue a determinar quienes son los verdaderos culpables de esta tragedia a saber: el cuerpo de bomberos que no hizo las inspecciones necesarias con el rigor profesional que ellas conllevan, el jefe de seguridad del local que debería haber seguido un protocolo en caso de incendios, los empleados del local que deberían haber sabido como usar los matafuegos que deberían haber estado en cantidad suficiente y funcionando correctamente, los dueños del local que deberían haber tenido señalizado las puertas de salida de emergencia, los padres de los menores de edad que fueron la mitad de las víctimas mortales y heridos , que deberían haberles prohibido salir a festejar a locales para gente adulta mayor de 18 años y obviamente la justicia que no solo actúa estáticamente poniendo en prisión preventiva solo a 1 de los dueños para después concederle la libertad bajo fianza sino tmb no investigar el papel del cuerpo de bomberos encargado de la habilitación e inspección del local como así tmb del titular responsable del ayuntamiento donde ocurrió el hecho, el cual debería haber sido destituido mediante juicio político.
Well Yes!____It has shown that in a tiny country which is very "developed", simple laws; such as "NO indoor lit fireworks in commercial places" either do not exist or are not enforced. I think lit fireworks should be banned even inside homes; as there is high risk of fire; and death!____This to me, shows an astonishing level of Incompetence, among ALL the people/parties involved. How could the Swiss not know this or fail to enforce? How could the bar owners not know this? Were they educated in Europe; CH maybe? That is what I keep thinking.____But there is more. What does this tragedy say about the intellect of our teens and young adults in the heart of Western Europe? The girl-waitress, supposedly working, and sitting on shoulder of a dancing man, holding lit fireworks with arm raised to the ceiling, completely oblivious to the fire! How could she not know?____Her mother said she was not trained. Do European citizens STILL need training at 24yrs of age, that fire can kill; do not play with Fire? I learnt that at under10yrs of age; even know how to extinguish fire.____Research published in several media shows that humans are getting Dumber. Well, the proof surfaced in a very horrible way.____Now I know, the government, venue owners, young adults are not any smarter in CH than, say in a poor 3rd world country.____Being a global citizen, I learnt years ago that human intellect is, on average, the same, no matter which country you go to.____So our evolution continues.....unfortunately, not upwards! (think geo-politics, wars, greed for power/money/control, exploitation of resources, climate change). Surely, we are NOT becoming smarter.
I agree. It shows a lack of intelligence on the part of the inspectors for not doing their job with professional responsibility, a lack of intelligence on the part of the owners of the premises for allowing minors to party in an adult bar late at night, a lack of intelligence on the part of the bar employees for not having learned a safety protocol to guide them in case of fire, as well as not knowing how to use a fire extinguisher. poor judgement on the part of the prosecutors who allowed the bar manager and his partner, who chose to flee with the takings rather than find a way to open the locked emergency exit door, to be released on bail; and finally, poor judgement on the part of the parents for failing to protect the most sacred thing they have, the lives of their children, and poor judgement on the part of the Swiss government for failing to instruct its citizens and the foreign population residing there for work and tourists who pass through occasionally to strictly follow certain safety measures that, in the event of this type of disaster, they should have, such as a safety protocol, as the Japanese have in the event of natural disasters such as earthquakes or tsunamis.
Coincido. Poca inteligencia por parte de los inspectores en no hacer su trabajo con responsabilidad profesional, poca inteligencia de parte de los dueños del local por permitir que menores de edad estén festejando en un bar para adultos a altas horas de la noche, poca inteligencia de los empleados del bar por no tener aprendido un protocolo de seguridad que los guíe en caso de incendios como así tmb no tener conocimiento de como usar un matafuegos, poca inteligencia de parte de los fiscales que dejan que se libere bajo fianza al responsable de la gestión del bar y de su socia que prefirió huir con el dinero de la recaudación en lugar de buscar la manera de abrir la puerta de salida de emergencia que estaba cerrada y por último muy poca inteligencia de parte de los padres por no proteger el capital más sagrado que tienen como es la vida de sus hijos y poca inteligencia del gobierno suizo de no instruir a sus ciudadanos y a la población extranjera residente por trabajo y turistas que transitan ocasionalmente de seguir a rajatabla ciertas medidas de seguridad que en caso de este tipo de siniestros , deberían tener como ser contar con un protocolo de seguridad, como si lo tienen los japoneses en caso de desastres naturales como terremotos o tsunamis.
I do not think anyone can think less of Switzerland because of this horrible tragedy. __The majority of Swiss citizens are law abiding and considerate and the whole country is crying for Crans Montana. A few dishonest, not to say criminal, people are at fault, the owners and those who gave them authorization to operate this place and covered for their lack of fire safety. The main culprits, the owners, are not even Swiss.____In Switzerland, regulations regarding the granting of licenses for bars, restaurants, or nightclubs are very strict and primarily managed at the cantonal level. Training is mandatory in several cantons, including Geneva, Vaud, Valais, Fribourg, and Jura, among others. The operators (owners) must demonstrate knowledge in several areas, which include: legislation, hygiene (HACCP), … prevention and safety (including youth protection, legal drinking age, and fire safety).____The owner/manager of 'Le Constellation', who was present at the time, had no knowledge of fire safety or, worse, she did have it but did nothing—except save herself quickly. Serious misconduct... or criminal misconduct.____As for the administration, there were faults by some officials, like having issued the necessary operating permits to 'Le Constellation' despite obvious risks, and shortage of inspections. However, this has been the responsibility of a few people, not the whole Swiss population!____Moreover, the lack of inspections does not give anyone the right to break the law! It is as if one could drive at 180 km/h on a highway just because there are no speed cameras! In the case of Crans-Montana, the law is clear in most cantons, including Valais. It is on these grounds that the Morettis must be judged. The incompetence of the authorities involved does not exonerate the Morettis.
How is it in an old wooden house there are no requirements for sprinkler systems?!!!! But they require stringent laws for all the other non sense things!
‘Perfect’ Switzerland is a fake fiction perpetuated by the Swiss. They like to think they are well organized and law abiding and honest. Which is often times true when it comes to things that are so-so important. Don’t litter! Because passerby will yell at you. Don’t park at the wrong place! People will yell at you. Lots of paper work to get anything done. But because this country is small, towns even smaller, everyone knows everyone so if you know someone, they will let things slide. The reason why investigations is not done properly because they have no idea how. They don’t have the experience. The reason why the club burned down is because the authorities didn’t do their jobs. There are only so many restaurants and clubs in this tiny town. How is it no one checked it? Those who work for the government are especially lazy. They work 4 hours a day and are constantly on holidays. They get paid well for doing nothing. This is not a perfect well running country. This is a country spoiled by abundance of money and a lot of arrogance. This should have NOT happened here. I hope this whips the government into shape in actually making sure the people work.
I agree. Swiss inspectors seem to have made a habit of not working responsibly. And, as everywhere else in the world, there are a handful of public employees who do their job conscientiously. But because they are in the minority, they are unable to inspect all nightclubs in a timely manner, and only a few employees of these nightclubs are properly aware of what pyrotechnic devices are and the great damage they can cause if handled irresponsibly. With regard to the solicitor defending the 24-year-old waitress who lost her life in the fire, I would remind her that common sense and the instinct for self-preservation are sufficient to know that a lit flare should not be brought close to any surface, regardless of the material it is made of. Therefore, the employees of said bar did not need safety training other than knowing how to use the fire extinguishers on the premises, which should have been in sufficient quantity and controlled by the security chief of the premises where the fire occurred, as well as having all the emergency exits marked and, obviously, having a fire safety protocol in place, which employees should be aware of and put into practice with regular drillsat least once a month.
Coincido. Los inspectores suizos pareciera haberse tomado por costumbre no trabajar con responsabilidad. Y como en todas partes del mundo hay un mínimo de empleados públicos que hace su trabajo a conciencia. Pero por ser los menos no alcanzan para inspeccionar a todos los locales nocturnos en tiempo y forma y solo unos pocos empleados de dichos locales nocturnos toman debida conciencia de lo que son los artefactos pirotécnicos y el gran daño que pueden ocasionar si se los maneja con irresponsabilidad. Respecto a la abogada que defiende a la camarera de 24 años que perdió la vida en el incendio le recuerdo que el sentido común y el instinto de auto preservación de la vida es suficiente para saber que no se debe acercar una bengala encendida a cualquier superficie, sea del material que sea por lo que los empleados de dichos bar no necesitaban tener capacitación en seguridad más que saber cómo utilizar los matafuegos del local que deberían haber estado en cantidad suficiente y controlados por el jefe de seguridad del local siniestrado como así también señalados todas las salidas de emergencia que tuviesen y obviamente tener un protocolo de seguridad en caso de incendio el cual SI debería ser del conocimiento de los empleados como así tmb de su puesta en práctica con simulaciones periódicas una vez al mes por lo menos.
First to express my deepest condolences.. I cried. We were visiting last New Year, once in a lifetime trip. We also attended an AA meeting, we were concerned that there weren't enough sober meetings in the area. There are not. Part of this, I Believe is the lack of forethought that goes into our younger folks. Education of safety while drinking. And age of youth allowed to drink. Our courts here are alert to the dangers and we have an abundance of meetings in the states. I also go to NA. The 12 Step rooms are not for profit. So in essence.. they are free for anyone with any substance problem. Teaches Good Clean fun! We have our own issues in the states as the world can see... there is a lesson in this tragedy. Im so so sorry for your losses. With ❤️ love
I am truly saddened for your country, which I love and trust dearly. On the first day of the incident, I stated that the fire department was primarily responsible, and yet no action has been taken regarding this. This is unacceptable! Furthermore, the free trial of the bar owners was also inappropriate. I believe this has been a significant lesson for the Swiss local authorities! An excessive sense of confidence and a perception of infallibility led to this tragedy. A system that carried out numerous studies and produced solutions for a landslide risk in a village was unable to prevent the deaths of 40 people in a simple bar. The primary responsibility lies with the fire department. __I hope this never happens again.__Yours sincerely.
If I may disagree, the main responsibility lies with the owners and, of course, responsibility also lies with those who should have been stricter in giving the permit, and thereafter, inspected better and regularly. Anyway a terrible tragedy...
If it is the responsibility of the fire brigade to inspect nightclubs and the security managers of each establishment to be clear about how to comply with the steps set out in a safety protocol, which they should have and practise together with the employees of the premises as required, then I agree.
Si le corresponde al cuerpo de bomberos el inspeccionar los locales nocturnos así como a los jefes de seguridad de cada establecimiento el tener en claro como cumplir con los pasos que dicta un protocolo de seguridad el cual deberían tener y practicarlo junto a los empleados del local como debería de exigirseles, entonces estoy de acuerdo.
I think that without the greatest possible relaxation of data protection, even in this case, it will unfortunately once again lead to lasting damage to public trust:____i.e.: "data protection" legal disputes here and there, documented and protected at the expense of the "truth" of the law enforcement agencies,__according to the quote: we cannot say anything about it...Data protection, in other words.
ich denke, dass es ohne die grösstmögliche lockerung des datenschutzes auch für diesen fall, leider einmal mehr wieder zu bleibenden vertrauensschäden in der bevölkeung führt:____dh: " datenschutz" rechtsstreit hüben und drüben, verbrieft und geschützt auf kosten der "Wahrheit" der gesetzeshüter,__nach dem zitat: wir können nichts sagen dazu...eben datenschutz.
It's unfortunate for Crans-Montana. Admittedly, there have been shortcomings. But it's also just bad luck. Every country can have this kind of unfortunate problem. Italy has bridges and the Mafia, France has crime, and others have forest fires. One thing is certain: the increasingly frequent large gatherings of people for sports and leisure activities are conducive to this kind of problem.
C'est malheureux pour Crans- Montana. Certes il y a eu des manquements. Mais , c'est aussi la poisse. Chaque Pays peut avoir ce genre de problème malheureux. Italie, c'est les ponts, la mafia, la France,la criminalité, d'autres , les incendies de forêts . Une chose est sure, les fortes concentrations humaines , toujours plus fréquentes, en sports et loisirs , sont propices à ce genre de problèmes .
Yes, all countries can have bad luck, but if bad luck is accompanied by inspectors who are unwilling to do their job thoroughly and if the security chiefs of each establishment do not report to the authorities the irregularities that the inspections do not correct in those places, then we have a combination of mistakes that end up causing tragedies that cannot be repaired no matter how much money is given to the victims' families. Furthermore, if we add to this the Swiss justice system's lack of speed in determining who is truly responsible for this incident, it is even worse, as sooner or later history will repeat itself.
Si, todos los países pueden tener mala suerte, pero si a la mala suerte se la acompaña con inspectores con pocas ganas de hacer su trabajo a conciencia y si los jefes de seguridad de cada establecimiento no informan a las autoridades de las irregularidades que las inspecciones no corrigen en dichos lugares entonces tenemos un combo de desaciertos que terminan generando tragedias que no se pueden reparar por más dinero que se les de a los familiares de las víctimas. Además si a eso se le suma la falta de celeridad de la justicia suiza por llegar a determinar las verdaderas responsabilidades en este hecho, peor aún ya que tarde o temprano se volverá a repetir la historia.
How did the inferno in Crans-Montana change my image of Switzerland?____As a Swiss citizen living abroad, I was deeply shaken by the tragedy in Crans-Montana – and, to be honest, also irritated. Around ten years ago, I experienced the Colectiv disaster in Romania, an inferno that caused worldwide horror at the time. The Swiss press often commented on it with a certain moral distance, talking about corruption, a lack of controls and a system that virtually enables such tragedies.____This makes it all the more astonishing – and sobering – for me that mistakes have now been made in Switzerland, a country known for its efficient organisation, which are frighteningly similar to those in Bucharest. That safety regulations were not followed, that controls failed, that people had to die, even though lessons could have been learned from previous disasters. For me, Crans-Montana shows that no country – not even Switzerland – is immune to complacency, organisational blind spots or turning a blind eye to safety issues. This has significantly damaged my image of Switzerland as a place where everything works reliably. And precisely because Switzerland otherwise sets such high standards for itself, this realisation hits me particularly hard.
Wie hat das Inferno von Crans-Montana mein Bild der Schweiz verändert?____Als Auslandschweizer hat mich das Unglück von Crans‑Montana tief erschüttert – und ehrlich gesagt auch irritiert. Vor rund zehn Jahren habe ich in Rumänien die Colectiv‑Katastrophe erlebt, ein Inferno, das damals weltweit für Entsetzen sorgte. In der Schweizer Presse wurde es oft mit einem gewissen moralischen Abstand kommentiert: Man sprach von Korruption, von fehlenden Kontrollen, von einem System, das solche Tragödien geradezu ermöglicht.____Umso erstaunlicher – und ernüchternder – ist es für mich, dass nun in der so korrekt organisierten Schweiz Fehler passiert sind, die denjenigen von Bukarest erschreckend ähneln. Dass Sicherheitsvorschriften nicht eingehalten wurden, dass Kontrollen versagt haben, dass Menschen sterben mussten, obwohl man aus früheren Katastrophen hätte lernen können.____Für mich zeigt Crans‑Montana, dass kein Land – auch nicht die Schweiz – immun ist gegen Selbstzufriedenheit, organisatorische Blindflecken oder das Wegschauen bei Sicherheitsfragen. Das Bild "meiner" Schweiz als Ort, wo alles zuverlässig funktioniert, hat für mich dadurch einen deutlichen Riss bekommen. Und gerade weil die Schweiz sonst so hohe Ansprüche an sich selbst stellt, trifft mich diese Erkenntnis besonders hart.
Although we lived very happily and well twice in Kanton Wallis, we were often irritated by the smug attitude of the Swiss, how everything is running smoothly, correctly, on time, without fault. This tragic happening has brought the population down with a bang, and how. Just goes to show they're not perfect after all.
My perception changed. For the worse. I was already familiar with the fact that money is key in Switzerland despite immaculate and righteous appearences, but this so called 'investigation' (a lot more than the tragedy itself) is something incredible. The investigators should be put under investigation.
You want to pass judgement before the course of justice has run its course. Don't worry, thanks in part to this tragedy, the Swiss justice system will take advantage of this opportunity to further improve its practices and its ability to deal with the most unusual and controversial cases.
Lei vuole calare sentenze prima che il corso della giustizia possa fare la sua strada. non si preoccupi, anche grazie a questa tragedia la giustizia svizzera approfitterà per migliorare ancora le sue prassi, la sua capacità di affrontare i casi più strani e controversi.
Okay: I'll give my opinion. Italy is lumping everything together. Let Swiss justice take its course. While working together!! Behaving like civilised people... The newspapers are just adding fuel to the fire... And for the families of the poor victims, it's another source of pain... Have a little more respect... When all this is resolved with justice served, then we will all come to terms with it... Working harder to ensure greater safety for everyone...
Ok:Io dico la mia ,L’Italia sta facendo di tutta l’erba un fascio.. Lasci che la giustizia svizzera faccia il suo buon corso . Pur collaborando insieme !!,Comportandosi da persone civili ..Le testate giornalistiche non fanno che alimentare il fuoco …E per le famiglie delle povere vittime è un dolore altroce .. Abbiate un po’piu di rispetto.. Quando tutto questo sarà risolto con la giusta causa!!!! Allora tutti c’è ne faremo una ragione…Inpegnandoci di più per una sicurezza maggiore per tutti …
For 60 years we have viewed Switzerland through rose-tinted spectacles. We still admire on a daily basis how everything is run properly, everything is clean, everyone is [mostly] honest. However, the world was shattered when the devastating fire took place in Crans Montana - we used to live just opposite in Nax. The fact that the town did not carry out regular safety inspections, as well as underage teenagers were allowed to frequent the locale is deeply distressing and has thus soured our view of "pristine" Switzerland. Shame.
You too want to pass judgement before the course of justice has run its course. Don't worry, thanks in part to this tragedy, the Swiss justice system will take the opportunity to further improve its practices and its ability to deal with the most unusual and controversial cases. It is better to wait and then, if appropriate and useful, pass judgement.
Anche Lei vuole calare sentenze prima che il corso della giustizia possa fare la sua strada. non si preoccupi, anche grazie a questa tragedia la giustizia svizzera approfitterà per migliorare ancora le sue prassi, la sua capacità di affrontare i casi più strani e controversi.__Meglio attendere e poi, se opportuno, se utile, calare sentenze.
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